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From:
Jeff Pitrman
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Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:08:49 -0700
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Re: (idm) Hip-hop history/CD philosophy
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At 07:26 PM 4/20/99 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines I think that "beat determinism" is a very effective theory.>I think that "beat determinism" is a very effective theory. > >So I agree, the beats lead the way, though I'm sure plenty of rappers were
all
quoted 1 line set to use some different delivery patterns as soon as affordable samplers>set to use some different delivery patterns as soon as affordable samplers
and
quoted 1 line such hit the market. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's not a rap song>such hit the market. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's not a rap song
to be
quoted 2 lines heard, janky remixes aside, where the beats don't define to the last letter>heard, janky remixes aside, where the beats don't define to the last letter >the method of rapping on top.
Interesting thread. I'm going to agree here, with a current example. Think about a lot of newer commercial hip hop releases to be on the radio recently. The feeling of beats over the past couple years has really leaned towards that ... uh ... limping feeling. I don't know a more accurate word to describe it. But when you take the rapping of Bustah Rhymes or someone, and then just listen to the weird as fuck weight placement in the breaks, it sounds a lot different from the hip hop of the early 90s. A definite example of the reflection back and forth from rapping style and the accompanying beats. All of that newish Method Man end of the world apocalypse thing album has that sound. I wonder if there's some name or even general consensus of opinion about this sound. The other interesting thing is how current videos jerk around fast-slow-fast-slow to further emphasise that feel, and completely beat you over the head with it. I actually kind of like that feel ... The use of layers of samples has changed a lot. Listening to wu tang albums evolving, for instance, show that kind of change in density. Less big-spacious-crashing around against each other, like say old PE used to be. ---- "According to the law of primogeniture this moon-cheese is mine. The UN? Ha! I spit on the UN!" [Pokey the Penguin] 5678>> http://www.pobox.com/~jpitrman/